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Poster: Krazy4Connie Date: Oct 2, 2011 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Friend of the Devil

I was wondering, when did the Dead change the arrangement of Friend of the Devil from the fast bluegrass speed to the slower version as on Dead set? Are there any live versions of the Faster one?

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 3, 2011 7:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil

i agree with wisc, DP 36 is the tightest played fast version.

also check this one out:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1974-09-18.sbd.miller.20675.shnf

DP 11 is very good too.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 3, 2011 11:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil

bobby is electrifyingly good throughout that version. Some of his best work without a doubt. He just dominates the entire song. I wish i could play guitar like that, fricking amazing.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Oct 3, 2011 2:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil

9/18/74 is easliy my favorite "fast" FOTD. That whole show is an underrated and jazzy masterpiece btw. BEST show of euro '74 by far, that tour sucked for the most part...

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 3, 2011 2:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil

SUCH a good show! the caution jam is the first since '69 and cannot be put into words.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 3, 2011 6:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil

yes there are plenty of fast versions. I would check out 1972 FOTDs. Apparently there are no FOTD's from 1973, but maybe that is setlists.net being inaccurate. Cant recall hearing one before tho... I really enjoy DP 36's FOTD (9/21/72). And yes i believe he is right that it was changed after the hiatus.

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Poster: chris in long beach Date: Oct 2, 2011 10:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil

It looks like they slowed it down in 76 (but I'm not certain). There are quite a few fast versions available.

setlists.org search

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Oct 5, 2011 4:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil

There was a rehearsal on 4/20/76 at Mickey Hart's barn where FOTD was rehearsed, so this is likely the point where they slowed it down.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 3, 2011 7:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

here's a modern retelling surf-style of FOTD by the Shi-Tones, not the hi-light of the show imo, but the entire set is pretty killer

http://www.archive.org/details/shi-tones2009-02-26.flac16

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Poster: user unknown Date: Oct 3, 2011 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

Interesting arrangement, that I enjoyed. But it wasn't exactly what I was expecting. IMHO it is a touch slow for FOTD, and a little too "dry" for "surf". I guess I'm just a Dick Dale and The Ventures kinda guy.

Arb, thanks for the link, and for several others you've recommended @ "Brokedown".

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 3, 2011 2:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

you're very welcome! glad you sampled, i really like this band, as well as the Mermen, which i believe Shi-Tones is an off-shoot of; i'm actually the opposite of you in terms of my approach to surf, i prefer the more garage-jam-surf than the traditional Dick Dale sort; i saw DD circa '95ish (in a small venue), and i was bored to tears, not to mention he was really just a big fat ego with a guitar and no soul to his playing at all; now, the Ventures i am not familiar with beyond what they were doing in the '60s but i know they kept performing on into this century, Big In Japan as they say

and of course, everyone knows that when it comes to Pipeline, no one touches Johnny Thunders...

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Poster: beep* Date: Oct 5, 2011 10:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

Quite correct. The Mermen is reserved mostly for Jim Thomas's original material, which can be a bit more psychedelic, whereas The Shi-tones stick to the classic surf covers. I love both of those bands.

Here's a rather snappy little FOTD:

http://www.archive.org/details/nrps1992-08-09.flac16

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Poster: user unknown Date: Oct 5, 2011 4:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

I'd have to agree on the "ego" comment. I think Mr. Dale has either taken too much of his own promotional material to heart, or has imbibed too much of his own bathwater. But I do like his "wet" guitar sound. Cowbell? What we need is more REVERB.

give their "Ghost Riders" a listen

http://www.archive.org/details/Shi-tones2010-12-31.aud.flac16

This post was modified by user unknown on 2011-10-05 23:10:14

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Poster: beep* Date: Oct 5, 2011 10:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

Here's a pretty nice Mermen SBD show from a few months ago at Oakland's Stork Club. Good example of their repertoire with a couple Shi-Tones crossovers:

http://www.archive.org/details/mermen2011-07-02.mix.flac16

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 6, 2011 9:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

thanks, i'll check your suggestion out, havent checked any recent Mermen shows out as yet; i keep returning again and again to this work of art:

http://www.archive.org/details/mermen2002-01-05.shnf

So many great instrumentals in this show, check out the utterly fantastic version of 'Silly Elephant Who Stomped To Tea', and follow that up with 'Within You Without You' > 'Burn' > 'Unto The Resplendent'.

i'm still waiting for the Mermen to head east into new england, but i think that will never happen

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Poster: beep* Date: Oct 7, 2011 7:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

Oh yeah. Great performance and nice recording. Hard for me to choose a favorite moment. Like the Dead, when they're on, they're on.
It would be nice if they could tour farther away but they seem content up and down the CA coast all these years.
I hope you get a chance to see them someday.
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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 5, 2011 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Friend of the Devil - Surf style [nonGD]

pretty killer, a definite headphones version (altho the bass was a bit overwhelming in the mix)

however, let's keep the theme but bring it on home :)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-08-21.hartjam.aud.17179.sbeok.shnf

hint: track #9